And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say, "Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance". And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper ~ Qur'an 2:120
This is a closed community for debunking and discussing Orientalism as defined by Edward Said. The members of this community reject Orientalists and the study of Islam as something other, exotic, evil, intolerrant and backwards. The members of the community are also tired of the way the "progressive movement" of Islam is held to be the flagbearer for so-called modern Islam while all other forms of Islam are percieved of as being fundamentlist. Here, knowledgable Muslims and sympathetic non-Muslims can debunk and rant on experiences, articles, thoughts and observations relating to Orientalist thought and everything relating to it. The source of Islam is the Qur'an and Sunnah first and foremost. Following the Qur'an and Sunnah are the famous, knowledgable scholars of Islam. We reject non-Muslims as the source of Islam and we reject unIslamic ideologies as a part of Islam.
One explanation of Orientalism from, Unveiling Islam, by Roger Du Pasquier, pages 5-7
The West, whether Christian or dechristianised, has never really known Islam. Ever since they watched it appear on the world stage, Christians never ceased to insult and slander it in order to find justification for waging war on it. It has been subjected to grotesque distortions the traces of which still endure in the European mind. Even today there are many Westerners for whom Islam can be reduced to three ideas: fanaticism, fatalism and polygamy. Of course, there does exist a more cultivated public whose ideas about Islam are less deformed; there are still precious few who know that the word Islam signifies nothing other than 'submission to God'. One symptom of this ignorance is the fact that in the imagination of most Europeans, Allah refers to the divinity of the Muslims, not the God of the Christians and Jews; they are all surprised to hear, when one takes the trouble to explain things to them, that 'Allah' means 'God', and that even Arab Christians know him by no other name.
Islam has of course been the object of studies by Western orientalists who, over the last two centuries, have published an extensive learned literature on the subject. Nevertheless, however worthy their labours may have been , particularly in the historical and and philological fields, they have contributed little to a better understanding of the Muslim religion in the Christian or post-Christian milieu, simply because they have failed to arouse much interest outside their specialised academic circles. One is forced also to concede that Oriental studies in the West have not always been inspired by the purest spirit of scholarly impartiality, and it is hard to deny that some Islamicists and Arabists have worked with the clear intention of belittling Islam and its adherents. This tendency was particularly marked for obvious reasons in the heyday of the colonial empires, but it would be an exaggeration to claim that it has vanished without trace.
These are some of the reasons why Islam remains even today so misjudged by the West, where curiously enough, Asiatic faiths such as Buddhism and Hinduism have for more than a century generated far more visible sympathy and interest, even though Islam is so close to Judaism and Christianity, having flowed from the same Abrahamic source. Despite this, however, for several years it has seemed that external conditions, particularly the growing importance of the Arab-Islamic countries in the world's great political and economic affairs, have served to arouse a growing interest of Islam in the West, resulting for some in the discovery of new and hitherto unsuspected horizons. (From Unveiling Islam, by Roger Du Pasquier, pages 5-7)